Build update 2

[Ifitaintbroke]

Yes. I got the notched lifters also.

[ArdWrknTrk]

[Ifitaintbroke]

As far as the power steering is concerned, I've got the truck jacked up and tried to bleed the system again. One of my coworkers, who used to be a Ford dealership mechanic, said that sometimes air in the system can cause it to blow the fluid out. He said what they used to do at the dealership was to turn it lock to lock several times, then leave it for several hours while at one lock. I left it over night, so we'll see how it goes.

[viven44]

Thats great!!

BTW, I also noticed some troubles you had with the timing and start. Just wanted to share a similar problem I had. A new-to-me 460 wouldn't fire with the key (hard and slow cranks) but if I jumped the started solenoid it would turn just fine (with key off). With key ON even the starter solenoid wouldn't cause the motor to turn. Turns out the distributor was too advanced, where the spark would ignite upon start and cause the motor to fight the starter. Also, the duraspark 2 system has a white wire, which receives power on "Start" only to combat some of this by someone had bypassed this before my time! With white wire operational, it would cause the spark to be retarded at "Start" only. Not sure if MSD has a provision for this.

Interested to hear more on PS pump. I'm fixing to start up a truck so any lessons learned are valuable :) :)

[Ifitaintbroke]

My problem ended up being the opposite. I had the dizzy too far retarded. So far that it wouldn't even try to start. Turned over fine, but would not start. Now I'm just trying to get it to idle good.

[Ifitaintbroke]

Turns out it was just the outlet fitting on the pump. With the engine running, and wheel not being turned, no fluid leaking. But, as soon as the wheel is turned, fluid started shooting out from the fitting. Which makes sense, as, from what I understand, the scenario producing the highest line pressure is wheels being turned with the truck parked. I tightened the fitting but have not done any more testing yet. In other news, it appears the brand new rear main is already leaking!  I bought quite literally the most expensive 460 rear main seal IN THE WORLD, and had a professional machinist install it. Not. Happy.

[viven44]

Are you sure the leak is not from the driver side upper bellhousing bolt that runs into the valley or from the oil pan ? What are the symptoms (leaking after a drive or while idling ?) and how much oil pressure are you running ?

[Ifitaintbroke]

Oil pressure is over 60 at first start up, runs close to 50 at idle when warmed up. I didn't think of the bellhousing bolt. When I've run it for a while, there's a little bit of oil coming straight down from the middle of the engine, on the spacer plate thing. Oil pan is not likely as I have a one piece rubber gasket and the high torque gray permatex in the corners. I'll check the bolt.

[mat in tn]

was the rear main main cap sealed to the block with rtv or even thread seal?

[viven44]

Wow that's a lot of oil pressure when warm

If you didn't use thread sealer on that bolt, it is a leak possibility. Small but definite leak.

True rear main leaks can be large puddles after drive and oil loss of a quart in 100 miles. Mine was that bad. When I redid mine, I saw why it leaked. The seal halves were installed by someone flush with the block, instead of the customary 3/8 inch overlap.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Ifitaintbroke wrote

When I've run it for a while, there's a little bit of oil coming straight down from the middle of the engine, on the spacer plate thing.

It may sound stupid, but check the oil pressure sender at the back of the intake manifold.

I got caught out by this once.  

[Ifitaintbroke]

That was my first thought, but no it's not leaking. I'm going to check the bolt. It just doesn't make sense for this rear main to be leaking. It's a John Kaase one piece, he designed it to overcome the problems with 460 rear mains, and I've never heard a bad word about them. As I said before, my machinist put it in, and he's the best in this area. If I'd put it in myself, I might suspect an error. (I put in 2 rear mains before pulling the engine and BOTH of them leaked worse than the original). As far as crank wear, not a chance. That journal looked perfectly fine and if it wasn't, the machinist would have noticed. I'll try to get in there soon. Just too much else going on.

[Ifitaintbroke]

Should be. A professional machinist who is well versed in bbf's put it together.

[Ifitaintbroke]

I put that bolt in and know for a fact that I didn't put anything on it. Didn't even think of it. As for the oil pressure, yeah that's pretty high. I have a high volume pump, but it's supposed to be standard pressure.

[viven44]

OK hope that fixes it. You would think a threaded bolt would hold oil, but capillary action is powerful.

I'll recommend what Jim introduced me to.. Loctite PST. I got the PST 592 which works wonderfully.

[Ifitaintbroke]

Maybe I'll get to it in a few days or next week. I'm trying to spend less time on this truck. I know that sounds weird, but I have more hours in it than even dollars. (Well above 20k at this point... no, I have no idea exactly WHERE 20k went, but it's there.)

[viven44]

We are all in this together  

I think of what I would do with all the time I had if I didn't have Truck projects. My trucks have kept me away from doing really stupid things. The only better way to use time would be with family and I do stay away from Trucks from time to time for that..

[Ifitaintbroke]

It's also just so expensive. I've got other projects going on all the time that aren't any cheaper than the truck, so I have to pick and choose. I don't have enough money for both at the same time. 'Specially that mower!

[BigBrother-84]

Ifitaintbroke wrote

Well above 20k at this point... no, I have no idea exactly WHERE 20k went, but it's there.

Yep, that’s unfortunately the case of lot of us.

That’s the reason I am wondering why the resale value of a restored Bullnose isn’t higher than what the market allows now.

[Gary Lewis]

Ifitaintbroke wrote

Well above 20k at this point... no, I have no idea exactly WHERE 20k went, but it's there.

I figured it out on Big Blue.  I found out that my insurance company at the time, State Farm, would give me a couple thousand for Big Blue, and "maybe more if I had comps".  So I went looking for comps and Hagerty had them.  I contacted them and they said they'd insure it for what I have in it, so I documented it.