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[1986F150Six]

Proverbs 11:22

[grumpin]

That worked on my phone!

Pretty slick with the bulls nose in there!

[ArdWrknTrk]

You really are on a roll Gary!  .

I'll see what I can come up with

[Gary Lewis]

David said Proverbs 11:22, which says: Like a gold ring in a pig’s snout is a beautiful woman who shows no discretion.  Hmmmm, is a bull's snout about the same?  Perhaps that would be about a man with no discretion?  

Grumpin - Worked on mine as well.  

Jim - It was EASY!  We could probably put any pic in the center, although the bull's nose seems appropriate.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Sounds like the kind of woman I gravitate towards.,...   

I can't use QR reader on my phone to focus on something _on_ my phone, but I trust it works.

I really like the idea of having something to hand out that will get people here (virtually) without any effort on their part.

But then, I liked the idea of 'Tips & Techniques' and that hasn't seen any real traction

[Ray Cecil]

ArdWrknTrk wrote

.....But then, I liked the idea of 'Tips & Techniques' and that hasn't seen any real traction

This website is still really young, and the Bullnose Trucks are just now starting to become popular again. In the next 10 years, this site will explode, and Gary wont be able to keep up.

Gary, you are going to need more moderators in the near future. I could maybe do some part time moderation as things start to get busy on the site.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Ray, I frankly don't know how Gary does it all himself, and add all the documentation in the background.

And makes progress on his epic projects, and all he does with his church, and has time to savour his family, and time to go on trips with them.
The man is a DYNAMO!


There really are no Mods.
Nice of you to volunteer!  

[Ray Cecil]

So, pulled into the parking lot this morning and Garys song came on the Oldies Station......

[Gary Lewis]

Tainted?  I don't remember singing that.  Or maybe I am that?

Anyway, Jim is right - we don't have "moderators".  There's nothing between "member" and "administrator", and the latter has the same rights I have, meaning they can change anything on the forum or even delete the whole forum.  That's a big gap in Nabble's design, but it is what it is.  

The main task is admitting new members, and we have that down to a science that takes less than a minute - at least for me.  Other than that, there's been precious little for a moderator to do since for the most part people are good about adhering to the guidelines.

So I'm cautious about adding admins.  But you volunteered, so if knowing the above you are still interested let's converse via email or text.

As for me being a dynamo, not hardly.  But the site, meaning both the forum and the documentation side, have been growing.  Last week we had 11 new members sign up to the forum.  And traffic to the website overall is up 24% in the last 90 days.  (You can see some metrics here: Documentation/Metrics.)  So it is a bit of a challenge balancing my time - but I'm having fun!  

[Ray Cecil]

Friendly Open Respectful Discussion.

I'd like to talk about something that has been on my mind. Balancing comfort and discomfort in life. This is non-religious, and non-political. Just a practical discussion. Joe Rogan gave a discussion once on a podcast, and it set my wheels to thinking. Below is an excerpt from his podcast. I've edited it to remove foul language that Joe Rogan is known for, and to clarify his thought stream.

"I think that there are a lot of people out there that think somehow or another they are going to get to some place where they are living in silk sheets, getting their toes done, while someone is dropping grapes in their mouth. I don't want that. I've never wanted that. That guy isn't going to be happy, he's going to be bored. An hour into the grapes he is going to say "Get those grapes away from me, stop painting my toes, what am I doing in this bed, I gotta do something. I'm not stimulated."

The human organism, needs constant stimulation, because now we, and our ancestors back then, spent thousands of years trying to find food, escape enemies, find shelter, escape nature, escape the elements. Its bred into us. This is the reason for the great joy that we have in taking care of and protecting our children and spouses from these elements, and the enemies, and feeding them.

It's also the reason for the great sadness that we see in today in losers. For example, a 43 year old man living in his parent's basement, who hates the world. This person was someone's baby, a baby that was fed horrible non-nutritious food, and horrible thoughts and ideas, and had horrible examples set for him. This baby became a kid and developed these horrible habits, self-defeating patterns of behavior that led him to a point of middle-aged laziness, with no future. No idea how to get out of their rut, with little chance of figuring out how to escape it. This is the world we live in today. Thousands of people are defeated, with no clue how to get out of their defeat. Not long ago, these people simply didn't survive long. Part of the reason this is a problem, is because we have been fed this idea of B.S. that we are supposed to seek comfort.

I don't think we are supposed to seek comfort, rather, I think we are to seek lessons and difficult tasks and accomplishments. Through doing these difficult tasks, we accomplish something. And we satisfy our most primal being, which brings us great joy. And we must do it daily. If we think "tomorrow i'm just going to coast, eat Twinkies, and watch t.v.," we invite sadness, and depression. Because we aren't doing anything.

The human reward system is deeply carved into our DNA, if we don't respect it, if we don't respect the mechanism of happiness and fulfillment, to experience camaraderie, love, family, friendship, struggle, testing ourselves, learning, then we don't get to experience our humanity." - paraphrase of Joe Rogan.

[Rembrant]

Ray Cecil wrote

Thousands of people are defeated, with no clue how to get out of their defeat. Not long ago, these people simply didn't survive long. Part of the reason this is a problem, is because we have been fed this idea of B.S. that we are supposed to seek comfort.

I'd add to this by saying that the reason people are seeking comfort is the incorrect belief that they are entitled to it.

I listen to the Joe Rogan podcast quite often. I get a little tired of the comedians after a while but I always tune in if he has somebody interesting on.

One of my favorite quotes from his Podcast, and I can't remember who the guest was, is this:

"A man has two lives to live. The second one starts the moment he realizes he only has one."

But back to you point, yes, we do need a purpose. It goes a long way in explaining the amount of people that lose interest in a project once it's finished...lol. Or when the destination of a trip is less memorable than traveling to get there. I'm sure there are enough retired guys on here that can confirm how important it is to have something to fill your day after you're done working. I have a couple relatives that are currently going through this...they are both guys who were dedicated to their work...so much so it was part of their identity. All of a sudden, they're finished work and they're lost. I think it's the same thing for the younger ones when the factory leaves a small town, or when your life is simply made too easy for you.

Ray, if you're a Podcast guy, check out Econtalk with Russ Roberts. His most recent one (Yesterday) is about manufacturing in the US...a little different take on the topic from the usual narrative. I haven't listened to it yet because I have about 400 miles to do tomorrow and I'm saving it;).

[Ray Cecil]

Cory, Yes, I listen to Joe Rogan a lot. I dont always agree with him, but he gets the most interesting people in the world on his show. I wish he'd clean his mouth up a little, but I am a grown man, I can listen around that.

Im still pretty young (33), so maybe some of the profound epiphical moments I might share in here, are old news to some of you older guys.

I do believe Ive read a Gary Lewis statement somewhere about his dads truck restoration being not about the final product, but the journey and challenge to get there.

This does seem to shed a lot of light on my constant desire for new adventures. My wife thinks I am fickle, but I think its natural.

[salans7]

I agree with the point of your childhood shaping your adult life. I grew up with a single mom that dated a few people, but never settled with anybody new. I'm an only child, with a very distant family so I barely know any of them. It was basically my mom and I when I was growing up. She did her best to raise me and I never went without. Even with that we never really grew close, I remember spending a lot of time by myself as a kid. I had friends in school, and in the activities my mom enrolled me in, but I never spent much one on one time with either of my parents. I've noticed in the last few years that I've grown to be fiercely independent, and find that I prefer being alone and grow weary of people very easily. I've dated my fair share of women, but I always find myself feeling restless. I don't know if it's just the type of people I come across, or if maybe I just prefer to do my own thing. But I can definitely say that I believe my childhood experience had a huge impact on who I am today and it's very hard to stray from what I know best.

[Ray Cecil]

Shaun, yes. Its nature vs nurture. But its also all in our heads. I grew up opposite that. Two parent household, who were high school sweethearts. Spent loads of time with my dad. However, I was the only boy. Two sisters. I also spent a lot of time playing by myself. Ive always had a natural tendency to be on my own (my nature). My nurture (parental examples) was to be social....and I followed the example set for me. I married youngish (23) and had kids fast. I didnt fully understand myself until about 26. Im now 33, and constantly struggling with my inner desire to do my own thing. I love my wife, and my children. However, my nature is one of adventure and going it alone. I often feel tied down. Then I have guilt, because I should be more thankful for my family. Its a constant back and forth, trying to keep the balance.  But, its all just in my head. I do have control over my nature and my nurture. The more I stuggle with both, the more mentally capable I am to control both.

If your lifestyle matches your nature, appreciate that freedom.

[salans7]

Agreed 100%

[Rembrant]

Posting this picture for no reason in particular other than I came across it while looking for other stuff. Picture was taken 25 years ago. It was my daily driver at the time, and the one vehicle I always missed (which is why I'm here today).



I'm sure it is long long gone now, probably crushed 20 years ago. If it still exists, I wish I knew where it was.

I've seen people on Facebook trying to track down vehicles that were sold many years prior, and surprisingly some of them do turn up. Of course they're usually somewhat collectible vehicles that people would take care of anyway. Old trucks rarely got that treatment around here unfortunately. They were used and abused.

[Ray Cecil]

Get me the vin number. If it still exists, I can likely find it. I found an old chevy my dad rode me around in when I was a kid.

[Dorsai]

In case you need another reason to patronize only highly selective shows such as Gary's Garagemahal...

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29561101/tv-auto-reporter-loses-job/

[Ray Cecil]

Oh....my....IQ=0 on that guy.

[Gary Lewis]

You can't fix privileged stupidity.  People that have never had to work on or for something - and are stupid.