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[BigBrother-84]

viven44 wrote

I'm waiting for the 7th gen Bronco. The 6th gen is mimicking the 1st gen which was more or less like a Jeep. 7th gen will be similar to the one I have 78-79 which will be based on the F-series platform, if history repeats itself.

Maybe ‘cause of my soft-heart and nostalgic side, but I really like (to not say love) this 6th gen “mimic” look.
Matter of taste…

[viven44]

It is beautiful vehicle. No doubt. Instant classic. I just can't fit 3 kids in the back row in a 6th gen.. heck my 78 and the bullnose ones can comfortable fit 3 kids the back in car seats!!

[ArdWrknTrk]

Make it a twin turbo inline 6 with perfect primary balance and let it spin to the moon.
With VVT you could build boost early, minimizing lag.

[BigBrother-84]

Lol!
When my 3 were kids, I was driving a “super viril” Montana 7 places.
I admit that the gang (plus the dog) would have feel a “little cramped” in a 6th gen Bronco.

[Danny G]

We have the same complaint about everything we have looked at. I grew up in an 86 Eddie Bauer edition bronco. Plenty of room everything now is so cramped. You can't get three car seats in there let alone 3 adults.

[Danny G]

Bring back wagons and jump seats lol

[viven44]

I was wondering this morning why and have some thoughts...

The T19 was rated for less tow capacity than the C6 even back then with the 3.08 and 3.55 rear ends, they were matched with the 4.10.

You have a ZF5 which is better than the T19 by a generation and the 6R80 which is definitely better than the C6.

I can't help but wonder how the 460 would do with a modern transmission. The torque curve is definitely on the lower rpm side vs the 3.5 Ecoboost.

[ArdWrknTrk]

With a fluid coupling there are far less shock loads on the drive line, and slip doesn't burn up the clutch & pressure plate.

The 460 came out in '68 to replace the MEL.
It's a cast iron pushrod V-8 with long throws and inefficient chambers.
If you were going to use a modern transmission, why on earth would you put it behind a 56 year old engine?

[mat in tn]

because it cool!

[viven44]

Not asking for that to be the plan of record in any production scenario.

We need a PAIRED comparison to make conclusions.

The only way I will be assured that the 3.5 Ecoboost can out-tow the 460 is by doing a PAIRED comparison with the same transmission. Don't even bother installing a turbo on that 460...

We had a saying at work. "In God we trust, all others must bring data"

[ArdWrknTrk]

Back on FTE people asked why the 351 wasn't offered in the higher GVWR.

I made the comparison to plowing a field.
Where a horse can pull the plow -perhaps faster- a lumbering Ox will pull through rocks & roots all day without even thinking about it.

[ArdWrknTrk]

That saying goes back to before you were born.  

[viven44]

I have no doubt that was a popular saying back in the day. I recall it being used often 15 years ago.. Apparently, no one seems to know it, even at my workplace anymore.

And thanks for pointing out the fact that I am young and gullible, and have a lot more to learn .. and I accept that

[ArdWrknTrk]

Seems the new generation has accepted "It's not a bug, it's a feature" a bit too well.  

[viven44]

I am an outlier... Speaking of the new generation, I have never been in the rat race along with the new generation... I play by my own rules which allows me to work free and without worry of repercussions. The day my company decides I no longer can play by my own rules and must conform i.e. participate in the HR "corporate ladder" program ... I will need to find something else to do.

[viven44]

Didn’t find a Tesla so I picked the next worst thing to park next to

[ArdWrknTrk]

You just got through saying you sat in traffic for 40 minutes to get 6 miles (or something to that effect)
You're absolutely up to your neck in "The Rat Race"

Go in at 4, get out at 1...
Your rules, right???  

ETA: YouTube link.  (yes, I'm that old!)

[viven44]

But at least I am not driving a Tesla frou frou Model 'whatever'

What I meant is just the "constant ambition and pursuit of growth and job titles.. and stepping on toes and claiming work done as theirs when it required help from others"... I refuse to participate in that.... when people forget how blessed they are to have a stable job already in a first world nation.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Seems to me that if the whole point of having a career is to get to a comfortable retirement, you would want to increase your earnings so you could sock away more over whatever time you have left???
Or use that larger salary to pay down principal on a mortgage/car loan/whatever and knock a bunch of years of debt off the back end

But I'm a stupid, crippled, unemployed fool who watched all that disappear, so what do I know?

[viven44]

Add up total income over a 30 year career... it will get into the 7 figures for most 9-5 jobs.... Maybe I'm too 3rd world, but that is a LOT of money. If you put up a fight.. sure. You can go from a low 7 figure to a high 7 figure gross income. I just don't think it is worth the stress or bypassing certain personal values, if needs can be kept reasonable....